So slightly delayed… I sat and watched the Transport Select Committee yesterday and then ended up running out of time to finish this. Overall I have to say Willie Walsh did not come across well. If I thought politicians were excellent at avoiding the question, Mr Walsh took it to a whole other level! He often spoke over people and refused to listen to MPs which came across as pretty rude. Finally, he asked how much longer it would take because he was busy….
You also have to take what he says in the context of being questioned over making 12,000 staff redundant and changing their terms and conditions.
Some people were less than impressed with Willie on Twitter
Man trapped in toilet cubicle struggles to answer any direct questions using earbuds that cost £7.99 on EBay pic.twitter.com/klgaJqBzFj
— Capt Twit(ter) (@Intrstng) May 11, 2020
Quarantine for UK arrivals
In March BA 50% less traffic and 30% less capacity than 2019. Up until the announcement of the 14-day quarantine, BA had been been planning to start flying on a fairly significant basis in July. They will have to review that based on what the government have announced. Willie said he couldn’t really believe that the UK were introducing the quarantine and why air transport had been singled out. If it is introduced as the government has announced, they would be forced to reduce flying to a minimal level in that event. He also questioned why it would not apply to arrivals from France (my thoughts exactly).
“We had been expecting governments around the world to start easing restrictions.”
Freight operations
The amount of freight BSA were carrying using passenger aircraft was discussed, presumably to understand the economic position BA are actually in. In April there were 422 freight flights with passenger aircraft and they are expecting more than that in May and June. They also have partnership arrangements such as Qatar transporting freight on their aircraft within the commercial revenue-sharing arrangement on certain routes.
The freight they have carried included 2000 ton of PPE, thousands of tons of food and medical supplies, gold, diamonds and money!
Traffic levels and outlook
Now personally I take anything the airline take about demand with a pinch of salt. Firstly because at this point it is complete guesswork and secondly it is also in airlines interest to paint a bleak picture to get funding from the government. Or in BA’s case get rid of thousands of employees and reduce the salary and terms of conditions of many of the rest.
Willie thought that traffic (notwithstanding the potential effect of the quarantine) would gradually build up by 2023 to 2019 levels. A lot will depend on what kind of recession we end up with and how long it may last. The airlines will have had a double impact from the virus and a recession.
Financial situation
Willie stated that BA had a much greater exposure to the impact than other IAG brands due to the level of business travel on BA than other airlines.
BA accounted for most of the profit of the whole group in previous years, however, they have the highest fix base cost of the whole group. Therefore the swing from profit to loss will be much greater. Therefore BA will need to adjust their costs more significantly or will make a more significant loss than others in IAG.
Then Willie managed to contradict what he says in the Air Europa questioning below about each airline being a separate entity:
He was asked how much liquidity BA had at the moment. At the end of April 2020, IAG had €6.4bn in cash and €3.6billion in loan facilities, part of which is a 12-month revolving credit on secured on aircraft. He refused to answer how much cash BA had saying they don’t disclose that number. But her, I thought all the airlines were separate entities??
Air Europa acquisition and aircraft orders
Understandably there have been a lot of questions raised about the purchase of Air Europa by IAG despite then claiming poverty and a need to get rid of over 12000 staff. When discussing the purchase he eas careful to state “if it proceeds” but he did not say anything about that they were considering pulling out. He tried to distance BA from the purchase claiming it was purely Iberia and that all the airlines within the group operate as separate entities. They do have indeed each have their own P&L. But Willie Walsh said all IAG did was to “co-ordinate” the airlines and that they make their own decisions. So Willie has no say at all on what each airline does? Hmmmm….
He also confirmed that they are not planning to buy a share of Austrian Airlines which has been rumoured recently.
They discussed the 200 B737 MAX on “order” and Willie confirmed that they were only an option so the order could be revised. IAG have also renegotiated delivery to reduce the number of new aircraft received by 68 for 2020-22.
Job cuts
In this section of questioning Willie Walksh pretty much dodged every question. His main reply was that he was acting as required by law and consulting the trade unions. The MPs grilling him all stated that they had been inundated by BA employees begging for help in the face of the threat or redundancy or huge pay cuts and new terms and conditions. He trotted out all the usual stuff about how it was the greatest threat aviation has veer faced etc etc without actually answering a single enquiry despite repeated requests.
He did state that they were investing in equipment, not people by replacing their fleet with more modern aircraft. He was questioned about whether he was taking advantage of the union’s relatively weak position at the moment and said he was surprised at the question. Do we really believe he didn’t think that people would jump to that conclusion? Willie did admit that the crisis was not the only reason he was planning to make the changes.
When questioned about BA’s cash burn rate, he also stated that furloughing staff for longer (as it now has been extended) would only save them about another 10 days cash burn. And yet he was also trying to say that staff were one of their biggest costs. So if furloughing most of your staff makes little difference to your cash burn, why would making them redundant help in the short term?
MPs also challenged him on the fact that BA have taken a government loan despite Alex Cruz’s email stating that they could not rely on government bailouts. This was justified by the fact is was not an airline-specific bailout but an option available to any business.
There was also discussion of outsourcing Heathrow flight management, ticketing and the worldwide baggage resolution centre offshore.
Gatwick and London City
There has been a lot of discussion about closing Gatwick but in fact, Mr Walsh seemed very keen to return saying he saw a future there and that it was a better run airport and more commercially focus than Heathrow (i.e. cheaper). 17% of BA operations are normally based at Gatwick.
“I’d like to think BA will be operating at LGW in the future”
Willie did not seem very positive about London City airport, which is understandable given the predicted downturn in business travel and Crossrail coming into action in the future. He said they would be looking at its future with the unions as part of their wider consultation. Willie pointed out that London City was me of the first airports to completely close in the crisis.
In my own opinion, London City’s BA1 was already looking shaky prior to the crisis. I think it is highly unlikely to return now sadly.
Refunds
Willie Walsh dismissed claims that they were deliberately trying to prevent people from getting a refund. He did state that they will give all passengers a refund if requested. IAG say they have issued €1.1 billion in refunds to passengers whose flights have been cancelled. Sadly the MPs did not really have the expertise to pursue this with him. The question should have been, why did you deliberately remove all online refund options from your website that there were before COVOD struck? However, BA are gradually refunding people’s money and my advice is to keep trying the phone lines, don’t select any options or press anything and you will get through eventually!
Safety for passengers
BA have been surprisingly quiet compared to other airlines about wearing mass on board. Willie said they are working with regulators to get a EU system of what measures should be taken for safety. They were also in favour of masks on board and track and trace of passengers. Surprisingly he liked the idea of temperature checks both ends of the journey. A lot of people don’t favour this as obviously it does not pick up everyone with COVID. But surely it picks up some people, so why not use as one of several measures?
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I read elsewhere he stated the online refund option still required manual execution, so was pulled because it wasn’t able to cope with the huge rise in demand.
Thanks Sayling. That may be partly the reason but I do think there are ways around it. There will be some that need manual intervention, like cancelled flights. However, removing the option for Avios bookings would not apply. Previously if you cancelled an Avios booking you would get the Avios back within hours. Perhaps they could not separate the two? Some airlines such as American have an online form for refunds. I did that and had my money back within days. If they wanted to, they could have easily done the same system as the vouchers but for a refund..
I think anything that requires a refund of a ‘cash’ component is the issue requiring manual processing. I’m guessing there are multiple streams where payments come from, but they are fairly irrelevant when it comes to getting the money – it just goes into the bank accounts, basically.
But sending it back means identifying how it came in and where it came from, ie Bacs, credit card, bank transfer, etc. In normal times, the number of transactions would be fairly minimal and probably easily handled by a small number of staff in the Indian Customer Services office. But once that was closed and the numbers of cancellations went through the roof… nightmare!
I’m sure if BA were more open and transparent about this (I’ve sort of pieced this together myself), people would be more accepting of the situation – there would still be those who think IT can be developed in five minutes and will moan about that, I’m sure!
Don’t worry I’m not taking it as a criticism! Always interesting to hear a different perspective. It’s interesting how different airlines have managed to do things in similar situations.
Agreed. I’m not familiar with the US payment clearing systems, but many years ago I was astonished when dealing with some South African social housing landlords that there was no equivalent of Bacs down there. Having said that, direct debit facilities weren’t very common in public sector social housing in the UK until about 10-15 years ago!
So the US may have a completely different way of doing things and could even be way in front of us in developing systems that automate receiving payments and refunding them afterwards.
Another thought… how many online UK retailers have you dealt with that have issued refunds for returns that take ‘up to 28 days to appear back in your account’?
Yes I know nothing about the US system either. In Algeria there are no electronic methods of payment even now! Normally most returns I do get processed for a refund within a couple of days of being received. Having a contact at BA I am aware they have a huge backlog of tens of thousands of refunds as so many are manual. Their system was never designed to cope with it. I still think they could make it easier by allowing you to fill in an online form for a refund. It may still take months and be manually processed but it would be a much more transparent way of doing it. I totally understand why they want to make it difficult, but from a customer point of view I’m sure many people took vouchers when they wanted a refund. By the way, thanks for your continued support. I’m aware you are a regular reader and have been for a long time!
NB: I’m not saying YOU are moaning, though!
I’m not that daft!??
I had a BA Flight and holiday booked to go to Lisbon this week and I got an email in early April saying all cancelled and to call them. I did not but I went on Twitter to BA and asked for a full refund which they did within a couple of days. So, I think the medium you use has an impact on timing to get funds back. Also, it saved a long frustrating wait on the phone!
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